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Edit conflict
[edit]@The Bushranger: Can you please check the last edit I made to the main ANI page? I didn't the edit conflict I got hit with was you in the middle of revdeleting stuff; I thought I was just copy-editing a post I just made to one of the threads. I apologize in advance if I mistakenly re-added something that you'd just removed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:59, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think you re-added anything, but it did basically double up the entire board somehow! I've reverted it - go back and re-add whatever you needed to fix! - The Bushranger One ping only 02:04, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- I just undid your edit. It essentially duplicated ANI, from 905,944 bytes to 1,792,020 bytes. Woodroar (talk) 02:04, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for that and my apologies. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:06, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- No worries at all! Believe me, editing ANI always makes my palms sweat. I don't know that kinda stuff doesn't happen all the time.... Woodroar (talk) 02:08, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for that and my apologies. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:06, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- Are y'all just editing the entire ANI page or something? FWIW I haven't had an edit conflict since I started using convenient discussions, which lets you reply directly to comments and sections (and edit your own comments, as I'm doing with this addendum) without going to the source text editor. JoelleJay (talk) 05:00, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- I believe it was mostly revolving around editing taking place during a WP:REVDEL, which of course impacts the entire page. TiggerJay (talk) 05:30, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
User:UtherSRG has deleted my draft for no reason
[edit]Yeah so my draft has been deleted because a group of administrators have decided to single me out. The Subject was notable, but once again admins are acting in bad faith. Edward Myer (talk) 02:11, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Edward Myer: have you notified UtherSRG that you've opened this AN discussion?
- Accusations of bad faith against others (admins or not) requires evidence. Where is that?
- You would have a much more positive experience here if you didn't consider everyone as your enemy. Just saying. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:26, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Consider posting the name of your draft and wikilinking it so folks don't have to go digging. –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:29, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'll save you the trouble and tell you this is a spurious report: Draft:Bruse Wane. Uther moved it from mainspace to draft. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 07:35, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- How ? Edward Myer (talk) 11:16, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Edward Myer - May I suggest reading WP:1AM, as that seems appropriate here since it had had multiple editors and administrators weigh in on this article already including a failed AfD and multiple attempts to bring it to the mainspace. TiggerJay (talk) 07:37, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Why do you say "for no reason"? The reason was clearly stated, and was not because a group of admins has decided to single you out or because of bad faith. Phil Bridger (talk) 11:27, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
Who is really here to help
[edit]Thank you to those that are actually trying to genuinely help me. We were all in experienced at one point. I started the draft article for the subject in 2016, being simply a fan of the subject. No personal connection. I returned almost 9 Years later, almost a decade and the climate on wikipedia towards new editors has not changed. Meanwhile I have been solicited in my email by individuals claiming they can help me with this for the right price. I'm not the subject so please stop. Thanks again for those offering constructive input that can help me grow, complete this article and move on from to other things on wikipedia. Edward Myer (talk) 11:15, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- I doubt that the people sending the emails read this page. You seem to have decided not to pay, but anyone else who gets such emails please do not pay anything. If a subject is shown to be notable then they can get an article for nothing; if not they can't at any price. Phil Bridger (talk) 11:33, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- And for anyone who hasn't yet read WP:SCAM, I recommend it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:36, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
Block evasion, likely abuse of multiple accounts from GabrielPenn4223
[edit]GameBoyColorPlayer3952, KmartFan65314, Johndy361316316 49.145.104.110 (talk) 21:56, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
- Already globally locked.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:59, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
A question
[edit]There might be cases where diffs are not enough, bcs the behaviour is spread out over multiple edits- in those cases, are we supposed to provide multiple diffs for every discussion, or can we just provide the discussions? It's for any future cases, not asking for the present one I have brought to ani. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 09:14, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I understand the question, but if an editor wishes to argue something along the lines of "Editor X engaged in behavior Y on multiple occasions", then I think it strengthens their case to provide individual diffs as well as making it easier for editors to review the specific edits of concern. Similar to how at WP:3RN one shouldn't simply point to the history for the page being reverted but link to each specific revert. DonIago (talk) 14:47, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies for stating it confusingly. No, more like "editor says one thing here" and "another thing here", and so on, and as a combination, it shows how their behaviour to contrary to the policies. And if such a disussion happens like half a dozen times, then do we have to show like 6*3-4=~20 diffs, or just a link to half a dozen discussions is fine? Bcs in case of long discussions, there will be a lot of diffs, and I don't want accusations of cherry-picking or something- this would not be true for links to discussions, as an admin can see it and make up their own mind. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 14:54, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- You need to put yourself in the place of a reviewing editor/admin and ask the question, "what would I find most helpful here?", bearing in mind that that person has probably not seen any previous discussion. It is often said that time is our most precious resource, and it usually takes less of it for one person to offer everything up on a plate than for several people to spend time working out what the issue is. Phil Bridger (talk) 15:19, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- I see, thank you! DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 16:05, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- You need to put yourself in the place of a reviewing editor/admin and ask the question, "what would I find most helpful here?", bearing in mind that that person has probably not seen any previous discussion. It is often said that time is our most precious resource, and it usually takes less of it for one person to offer everything up on a plate than for several people to spend time working out what the issue is. Phil Bridger (talk) 15:19, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies for stating it confusingly. No, more like "editor says one thing here" and "another thing here", and so on, and as a combination, it shows how their behaviour to contrary to the policies. And if such a disussion happens like half a dozen times, then do we have to show like 6*3-4=~20 diffs, or just a link to half a dozen discussions is fine? Bcs in case of long discussions, there will be a lot of diffs, and I don't want accusations of cherry-picking or something- this would not be true for links to discussions, as an admin can see it and make up their own mind. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 14:54, 7 February 2025 (UTC)